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Abstract:
The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) Office and the student-run organization Queers and Allies (Q&A) greeted students at a barbecue and socializing event as part of UMKC's Welcome Week on Aug. 21 at the Oak Street Residence Hall.

The LGBT Office, located on the first floor of the University Center, serves as a place to go for all students on UMKC campus....

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Meliy

posted 8/25/08 @ 9:01 PM CST

Seems the group of LGBT gets more and more attention from the society. Many of my GLBT friends on the online community BisexualMingle* are working for the group. They are really great and respectable.

Mary Jefferson

posted 8/27/08 @ 8:06 PM CST

It breaks my heart to see that numerous people on campus and elsewhere in society are being celebrated simply because they copulate with other members of the same sex.

I am not "homophobic" or a "hater." In fact, I love those of you who attended the GLB&T function sufficiently to go against the stream of popular opinion and tell you the truth. I understand, increasingly well as opinions to the contrary are discouraged, how it feels to feel "out of place," so I can sympathize with the emotions of each individual who attends such gatherings if only to know that they are not alone in the world.

But such relationships as attendees to such functions seek are literally unhealthy. AIDS is on the rise again in America, and the rise is nearly confined to the "Gay" community. AIDS is not the only concern. I have heard of "Gay Bowel Disease" which one physician who had experience in treating individuals so infected describe the bowels of gay men as "tropical islands of exotic diseases."

Gay men tend to die much, much younger than "straight" men. I must confess, I don't know as much about the dangers to lesbians. In any case, I don't think it is a loving thing to do to fail to warn people of the danger to their bodies that they are apt to encounter in promiscuous heterosexual or homosexual encounters and the danger to their souls as well.

Dear Mary Jefferson

posted 8/29/08 @ 10:21 PM CST

"... danger to their souls"?

What about the danger of diminished vision from too much bible reading?

What about the diseases missionaries bring back to the U.S. after enforcing their faith upon third-world countries?

Mary Jefferson

posted 8/30/08 @ 11:22 PM CST

Originally posted by

Dear Mary Jefferson

"... danger to their souls"?

What about the danger of diminished vision from too much bible reading?

What about the diseases missionaries bring back to the U.S. after enforcing their faith upon third-world countries?


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

The bulk of my letter dealt with danger to the bodies of people resulting from immoral activities. Why did you deal only with the very last word of a rather long letter?

wharris@unews.com

posted 9/01/08 @ 12:13 PM CST

Mary Jefferson,
I don't believe that homosexuality is a choice, it is an innate characteristic. If homosexuality can be chosen, then how did you make the decision to be straight? As a heterosexual male, I didn't choose, it was just the way I was born. The same applies to gay men and women. Plus, why would anyone choose a lifestyle where they are routinely discriminated against and lose rights AROUND THE WORLD, not just in America?

Mary Jefferson

posted 9/02/08 @ 7:59 PM CST

I don't believe that you chose your orientation, but I'm not convinced that you were born with it. There's a tremendous debate as to whether it is the result of nature or of nurture. I don't know the circumstances of your infancy and childhood, but there seems to be a lot of correlation between suffering abuse as a child and homosexual orientation.
The good news is that you don't have to condemn yourself to a lifetime of debauchery and consequent disease. "Love Won Out" Ministy and "Exodus" have helped a lot of people change their orientation. They are easy to find on the internet, if you're interested.

Anonymous

posted 9/06/08 @ 1:20 PM CST

Mary Jefferson:

I do a lot of work in the HIV/AIDS community, and while there is a current rise in young homosexual males again, to say that it is nearly CONFINED to them is ignorant and completely wrong. Heterosexual, African-American males AND females are also seeing a large increase in infections, and have been for a long time. The other alarming fact is that new infections aren't just restricted to college students, with a large amount of new infections happening when people are in their 30's and 40's. The second people believe a disease cannot harm them is the point at which the disease begins to spread more rampantly. You want to talk about the spread of a disease? How about HPV and Cervical cancer? No, I'm sure that isn't on your agenda. Not only do I believe you don't understand anything to do with HIV/AIDS, but I also don't believe any of the sympathies you expressed in your first response. You make some sweeping generalizations in your comments and, honestly, I feel bad for you. I feel bad that you profess a grasp on acceptance when your hands are too greased up from intolerance to hold on to it. Take a step back: Next time you want to lecture someone on their interactions with other people, I suggest you learn how to do so yourself.

Mary Jefferson

posted 9/08/08 @ 12:20 PM CST

You express a great deal of knowledge, but you don't express much concern about how these diseases are spread. You will note that in my first letter, I did indicate that heterosexual promiscuity is also a factor (actually, a tremendous one) in the spread of STDs. The fact is, one you, no doubt, disparage, that the only sure way to keep from having STDs, including AIDS, and unwanted pregnancies, is to be abstinent until married, then faithful thereafter. You profess to have greater affection for gays than I have. Yet, I doubt you will tell them or anyone else those simple facts. Instead, you probably prefer to distribute condoms and AIDS treatments. Pretending that condoms fix anything is an unconscionable hoax! There was an old joke about people who relied upon condoms for contraception. It went: "Do you know what they call people who use condoms?" "Parents!"
If they don't work in the case of heterosexuals, who are only fertile a few days per month, just how effective do you think they are against AIDS and other diseases which are communicable every day of the year?!?

There needs to be a change in behavior. I have shown people a way out of their trap. What, exactly, have you done to help PREVENT people from contracting deadly diseases?

I don't think your idea of love is very loving at all.
My idea of love is to show people a way out of their dilema.
My words may seem harsh to you, but I think that deadly serious problems require shocking methods to alert people of the problems they can encounter if they continue on their chosen path. It may not SEEM loving to you, but your method of sympathizing with people after they have contracted a deadly disease doesn't seem loving to me, either.

Reader

posted 9/08/08 @ 10:32 PM CST

Mary,

Where are you getting your information?

Why do you think you have the expertise/knowledge to address such issues?

Why do you read articles like this one if such behavior shocks you?

How many gays have you successfully converted to straightism?

Originally posted by

Mary Jefferson

You express a great deal of knowledge, but you don't express much concern about how these diseases are spread. You will note that in my first letter, I did indicate that heterosexual promiscuity is also a factor (actually, a tremendous one) in the spread of STDs. The fact is, one you, no doubt, disparage, that the only sure way to keep from having STDs, including AIDS, and unwanted pregnancies, is to be abstinent until married, then faithful thereafter. You profess to have greater affection for gays than I have. Yet, I doubt you will tell them or anyone else those simple facts. Instead, you probably prefer to distribute condoms and AIDS treatments. Pretending that condoms fix anything is an unconscionable hoax! There was an old joke about people who relied upon condoms for contraception. It went: "Do you know what they call people who use condoms?" "Parents!"
If they don't work in the case of heterosexuals, who are only fertile a few days per month, just how effective do you think they are against AIDS and other diseases which are communicable every day of the year?!?

There needs to be a change in behavior. I have shown people a way out of their trap. What, exactly, have you done to help PREVENT people from contracting deadly diseases?

I don't think your idea of love is very loving at all.
My idea of love is to show people a way out of their dilema.
My words may seem harsh to you, but I think that deadly serious problems require shocking methods to alert people of the problems they can encounter if they continue on their chosen path. It may not SEEM loving to you, but your method of sympathizing with people after they have contracted a deadly disease doesn't seem loving to me, either.

Mary Jefferson

posted 9/09/08 @ 3:45 PM CST

1. From alternative media, which gets their information from the CDC, etc. It is not broadcast nor printed in "major" media because it is not "politically correct."

2. Because I learned from the folks who know! Where does anyone get their knowledge/expertise?

3. In hopes of bringing to light facts that might not otherwise be known by those who only get their information from folks with an agenda to get and keep them in the lifestyle.

4. Still working on my first (unless there are some I don't know about). Lord willing, it won't be in vain.

JR

posted 9/16/08 @ 3:04 PM CST

Mary,

The CDC must print its findings in journals and their findings in articles are under strict peer review. You are making up your sources (please list them).

Gay to straight programs have not shown to make an improvements in the health of an individual. The writers of "love won out" both realized that they were indeed homosexual individuals.

FYI: Want to know where the biggest rise of STIs is found? Participants of abstinance only sex education (especially those who do everything BUT sex to stay true to their oath)

Mary

posted 9/19/08 @ 1:27 AM CST

I get some, but not all, of my information from Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council. There are numerous other organizations who are deeply concerned about the drift of society and who do research into these matters.
According to the websites for "Love Won Out" and "Exodus International," THOUSANDS of people have come out of the lifestyle. That's not to say that everyone who tries is 100% successful, but if a person is determined, there is a way, and, as I indicated thousands have found fulfillment in heterosexual marriages complete with children biologically related to both members of the marriage. Not surprisingly, formerly homosexual men generally marry formerly lesbian women.

If the two people entering the marriage were not diseased going into the marriage, they won't contract diseases from each other. If they were, their health won't be any worse in a married state than in a single one, and they might avoid contracting more or worse diseases.

Regarding abstinence education, I don't know the statistics regarding that, but I do know that the rate of pregnancy has gone down, and so has the rate of abortions. I presume the rate of STDs has, also.

There is only so much time in a school day and year. If sex-education is to be taught, abstinence education provides students with plenty of reasons and means to maintain chastity until marriage. Also, there's no law saying that people have to wait until their mid- to late- twenties or early-thirties to marry. Plenty of people have completed their educations while starting their families. It is difficult, but no more difficult than coping with deadly diseases, and is far more rewarding.

Besides, I didn't mention abstinence education, I mentioned abstinence as a practice to avoid a host of problems.

"Comprehensive" sex-education strikes me as being unnecessary. Kids learn plenty just from TV commercials. Anything they don't learn there, they can learn from myriad books on the subject. The biggest problem with TV and movies is that, while promoting licensiousness and hedonism, seldom is the downside of such behavior shown, and neither is the upside of faithful marriage anymore.

JR

posted 9/21/08 @ 10:03 AM CST

Originally posted by

Mary

I get some, but not all, of my information from Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council. There are numerous other organizations who are deeply concerned about the drift of society and who do research into these matters.
According to the websites for "Love Won Out" and "Exodus International," THOUSANDS of people have come out of the lifestyle. That's not to say that everyone who tries is 100% successful, but if a person is determined, there is a way, and, as I indicated thousands have found fulfillment in heterosexual marriages complete with children biologically related to both members of the marriage. Not surprisingly, formerly homosexual men generally marry formerly lesbian women.

If the two people entering the marriage were not diseased going into the marriage, they won't contract diseases from each other. If they were, their health won't be any worse in a married state than in a single one, and they might avoid contracting more or worse diseases.

Regarding abstinence education, I don't know the statistics regarding that, but I do know that the rate of pregnancy has gone down, and so has the rate of abortions. I presume the rate of STDs has, also.

There is only so much time in a school day and year. If sex-education is to be taught, abstinence education provides students with plenty of reasons and means to maintain chastity until marriage. Also, there's no law saying that people have to wait until their mid- to late- twenties or early-thirties to marry. Plenty of people have completed their educations while starting their families. It is difficult, but no more difficult than coping with deadly diseases, and is far more rewarding.

Besides, I didn't mention abstinence education, I mentioned abstinence as a practice to avoid a host of problems.

"Comprehensive" sex-education strikes me as being unnecessary. Kids learn plenty just from TV commercials. Anything they don't learn there, they can learn from myriad books on the subject. The biggest problem with TV and movies is that, while promoting licensiousness and hedonism, seldom is the downside of such behavior shown, and neither is the upside of faithful marriage anymore.



Okay, you must understand that Focus on the Family is a biased source. Their information is not backed up by scientists. Their 'research' does not follow models established by scientists centuries ago. Using just Focus on the Family as a source is like using the PETA website to back up being a vegitarian.

For instance, when a report was released saying a child should be raised in a household with two parents, Focus on the Family took that information and transformed it into "a mother and a father." In fact, the research did not even say mother and a father or male and a female. The research suggested that a child merely needs two people in their lives whether it is two males, two females, or a male and a female.

Also, you would be suprised, but STIs are on the rise in abstinance only participants. Look up "armpit sex" and you'll be VERY suprised.

If we were to base all of our practices on commercials...the world would be even worse off. There needs to be a dialogue between parents, educators, and students so they do not base their opinions off of advertising agencies. Do students smoke because of a magazine, or because parents, friends, role models.

Mary

posted 9/22/08 @ 2:48 AM CST

I doubt there are any sources of any information that are not biased, including those from which you get your information. I don't know that I "buy" the statements you made which are contrary to the information I received.

We can argue all this ad infinitum, and, when it's all done, you will choose to do what you choose to do, for better or for worse.

I just wanted to share with people who might be interested, that they don't have to live that way if they don't want to. There is a way out. Evidently there are lots of people who have chosen it.

One thing you can't argue with, though, is that, if a young man and a young woman who are not diseased pledge to be faithful to each other, and keep their pledge (otherwise known as marriage), they will not infect each other with STDs, and the children they conceive will be equally related to both of them. If, in addition, they treat each other well, they will be contented and have peace of mind, at least where their relationship is concerned. That is worth a great deal.

My purpose in all of this was to try to help anyone who might benefit from knowing there is a way out, and they can save themselves a lot of trouble if they take it.

May God draw you to salvation through Christ Jesus.

Anna

posted 9/23/08 @ 7:30 AM CST

Originally posted by

Mary



One thing you can't argue with, though, is that, if a young man and a young woman who are not diseased pledge to be faithful to each other, and keep their pledge (otherwise known as marriage), they will not infect each other with STDs, and the children they conceive will be equally related to both of them. If, in addition, they treat each other well, they will be contented and have peace of mind, at least where their relationship is concerned. That is worth a great deal.



If a man and a woman pledge to be faithful to each other and one or both of them have had previous sexual partners, that doesn't guarantee there will be no infection. However, if a man and a man pledge to be faithful to only each other, then there is also no chance of STDs, or a woman and a woman, or a man and woman. It doesn't matter the gender.

JR

posted 9/22/08 @ 10:37 PM CST

You truly are a lost individual. The methods that have been used at "straight camp" have been discovered to leave individuals unstable and mentally scarred. The APA no longer supports the use of reparative theorpy and consider it ethically challenging.

In regards to a "way out," how many innocent inmates are there because an interagator just knew they were guilty and in a way tortured them until they confessed.

I do hope you do not have a degree from UMKC. If you do, it makes me wish I was graduated some place else as you have greatly deminished the academic standing of the university.

May the Truth lift the blindfold that you have placed

Don't Drink the Kool Aid

posted 9/23/08 @ 12:15 PM CST

http://www.focusonthefamily.com/about_us.aspx

Focus on the Family is a glorified bible study group.

They don't believe in science. How can you glean facts from their "research"?

Mary

posted 9/23/08 @ 3:37 PM CST

Regarding fidelity between a man and a man or a woman and a woman, as soon as I sent my previous e-mail, it dawned on me that I failed to make the caveat that the couple practice "normal" sexual behavior involving the sex organs of both parties. If heterosexual couples indulge in perverse practices, chances are, they, too, can infect one another, even if they are faithful. Part of the problem with homosexual behavior is that the practices are grossly unsanitary so that, even if a couple is faithful, there is no guarantee that disease won't be fostered.

Regarding Focus on the Family, Dr. Dobson has a doctorate in child psychology. As I stated in an earlier e-mail, they read and cite scientific studies such as those from the CDC and the Alan Guttmacher Institute. They might draw different conclusions from the results than the researchers did, but they use the same studies.

Regarding my being a "lost" individual, in my opinion, backed by the entire Holy Bible of thousands of years duration, I am not the one who needs to be particularly concerned about being lost.

You may not like my thoughts. You may disagree with them. You may attempt to find fault with them, but what I have said is the truth, and deny it vociferously though you might, even you know it is true. I don't wish any harm to come to any of you, otherwise, I'd have totally ignored the article and let you go on your way. I have attempted to disuade you, perhaps to no avail. Be that as it may, I have done what I was supposed to do.

"Son of Man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. When I say to a wicked man, 'You shall surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to disuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin, but you will have saved yourself." (Ezekial 3:17-19)

You may not believe God exists, or, at least, you probably hope God does not exist. He does, and I can prove it, beyond all reasonable doubt mathmatically.

All amino acids, except for glycene, exist in two different forms. They are as similar and as different as the right and left hand (D & L forms). All life forms possess only "L" forms of amino acids. Amino acids form proteins; protein chains form DNA. (All you have is proteins - not to be confused with life.) Proteins come in "chains" and each one possesses at least 100 amino acids - all "L" form. "The probability of 125 specifically sequenced proteins, consisting of 400 all L-amino acids each, forming by chance, given every molecule in every ocean of 10 to the 31st power "earths" being an amino acid, and these linking up in sets of 124 proteins every second for 10 billion years?
l. The probability of 124 sequenced proteins in 1/10 to the 64,390 power
2. The probability of these proteins consisting of all L-amino acids is 1/10 to the 14,046 power
3. the total probability would be: 1/10 to the 64,390 power X 1/10 to the 14,046 power or 1/10 to the 78,436 power." (The Creation/Evolution Controversy by R.L. Wysong, p. 92) (I've condensed his article on the subject with runs from page 69 to page 95.)

For those less mathematically inclined, that means 1/1 followed by 78,436 zeros. That is the odds of a single strand of sequenced protein coming into being strictly by chance.

The inverse of that proportion, in other words, 78,436 nines over 1 followed by 78,436 zeros is the probability that that strand of protein did not come into being by chance, but by divine design.

God is, and sooner or later, you will have to face that fact. Way better for you if you face it sooner.

Don't Drink the Kool Aid

posted 9/23/08 @ 5:19 PM CST

Mary,

Interesting transition from the bible to "science."

However, the book you cite was published in 1976 and written by a veterinarian. This junk science you espouse as fact is not only outdated, but unrecognized by the scientific community.

As far as Dobson's expertise as a child psychologist goes, just look at his list of published works. None have been published in any scientific journals. He's a radio evangelist.

Regarding your views on the holy bible, how many editions are currently in circulation? Why do you assume your interpretation of the bible is correct?

Blind faith is the downfall of societies.

Mary

posted 9/24/08 @ 12:05 AM CST

Blind faith in what? Evolution? Those who believed in evolution created more havoc in the world than any "religious fanatic." Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc, how many millions did they have killed? and just think about the estimated 50,000,000 babies aborted in absolutely horrible fashions here in America just since 1973! (FYI: Though the black population in America is about 12%, more than 30% of the abortions were done on black women.) Look around you. You only see 2/3 of the people of your age that were conceived.

I don't have blind faith. I have firm conviction based on
studying more than one side of the issue; from researching the answers to numerous questions; and from experience with
answered prayer. If you're only looking at one side, I've got you beat. I've studied several worldviews in an effort to understand whether I believed as I did because that was what I was taught, or whether it was, indeed, true. I concluded that the Bible tells us who we are; where we came from; what's going on in the world; how we're to conduct ourselves; and where we're destined to go. It answers all of life's big questions. I doubt you can find such wisdom anywhere else. It is, without question, the most civilizing force the world has ever seen. Any freedom we still enjoy in this country is a direct result of the pervasiveness of Christianity in the colonies when the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, and the Bill of Rights were being written.

You might believe that people in primitive societies enjoyed their lives, but their lives were lived in terror. They were afraid of evil spirits everywhere, and you can be assured they were valued only for their utility.

There were places where people ate people alive! They weren't stupid. They were unspeakably cruel! They would cut off people's toes, then eat them (cooked?) in front of the person, remarking as to how good they were, and even offering some to the victim, as a joke. No doubt they went back for more when the toes were gone.

When Christianity was accepted (after a few missionaries had been eaten), they became very hospitable people, and still are to this day.

All the social problems we have in this world would be corrected if everyone on earth behaved as recommended in the Bible.

"The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof; the world and they that dwell therein . . ." Psalm 24:1

". . . You are not your own. You were bought with a price . . ." I Corinthians 6:19b - 20a

Don't Drink the Kool Aid

posted 9/24/08 @ 1:30 AM CST

"All the social problems we have in this world would be corrected if everyone on earth behaved as recommended in the Bible."

Really, Mary?

Here are some of the Bible's "recommendations":

Deuteronomy 25:1-3 (New International Version)

"1 When men have a dispute, they are to take it to court and the judges will decide the case, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty. 2 If the guilty man deserves to be beaten, the judge shall make him lie down and have him flogged in his presence with the number of lashes his crime deserves, 3 but he must not give him more than forty lashes. If he is flogged more than that, your brother will be degraded in your eyes."

Deuteronomy 13:12-15 (King James Version)
"12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword."

Deuteronomy 17:2-7 (King James Version)

"2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. 6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. 7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you."

Mary

posted 9/24/08 @ 8:25 AM CST

You are citing passages where people had to take measures to correct others who did not behave as recommended. If all people behaved as recommended, everyone would be kind, considerate, loving, generous, respectful, diligent, self-controlled, etc. There would be no need to punish anyone if everyone behaved as commanded.

Mary

posted 9/24/08 @ 10:43 AM CST

It "sticks in my craw" that you were so dismissive of Wysong's book and his chapter regarding the odds against even proteins coming into being by chance. Have you ever seen the book; or did you just look it up on the web and find out when it was published?

You seem to think that because he wrote the book in 1976 originally it is completely obsolete. He cited Watson and Crick and their work on DNA in his book. Evidently their work preceded his. According to Wysong's book, they did their work in the 1950s. Do we still hold them in high regard? What about the math involved? Pythagorus came up with his theorem in the 6th Century B.C. Do we still use it today? Just because some information is old or relatively so doesn't mean it is useless. If the information Wysong presented regarding the odds of proteins arising from chance is accurate, it shouldn't matter when he published his work. Nor should it matter that his profession was that of a veterinarian. Veterinarians are scientists, too. He, just as you and I, are capable of reading and understanding. Even if he is delving into areas where he does not have professional credentials, that doesn't mean that he is totally unqualified to discuss a topic. If he has studied the matter out of interest and curiosity, chances are he knows at least as much about a topic as those who have studied in order to obtain credentials so they can derive a paycheck.

In addition to the articles / chapters in the book there are some amazing photos and charts, and his arguments, backed up by lots of evidence that you are not likely to see if you're not going through his book, are quite convincing.

JR

posted 9/24/08 @ 11:02 AM CST

Mary, what is your major? Becaue I am seeing some very illogical conclusions in your "logic." There are other philosophies in this world that have brought peace to people. Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, all have brought order to the culture. Christianity is not the "one religion," and the Bible sets presidence by saying so (actually read Exodus and you'll understand). In regards to what you said about FotF, they cannot, scientifically, make a conclusion based on another experiement or test. They must use the same variables and conduct the same experiment. If the same outcome is achieved, they must stick with the origional research.

Please please please stop spouting messages of hate. Please please please understand how the scientific community works. Science does not PROVE anything. It is not a discipline that is set out to prove. Science sets out to understand.

And if you actually considered other worldviews, you would not be as bigoted and biased as you are. To consider means to research, to look at different views, to find pros and cons. You look at the cons and build up why your belief is better. You are ego centered and will do much more harm then help to this world and for Christianity.

Mary

posted 9/24/08 @ 4:08 PM CST

I'm sorry that you misconstrue my disagreement with your thinking for hatred. It is not. It is merely disagreement. I have been writing in an effort to get you to see that you are headed down a path that is going to take you to a place you really won't want to go, and to try to show you that there is evidence to back up the claims of the Bible, and that obedience to the commandments of God leads to greater peace and happiness. I have been writing for your sake. I didn't need to spend my time this way. I have other things to do.

There may be other religions that are peaceful, but there is one thing that Christianity offers that they cannot: salvation - life everlasting in the presence of God. If you keep telling God to get out of your life, eventually He will. The loss to you will be beyond imagining. I don't want that for anyone. Neither does God.

I've heard that you can't argue anyone into the Kingdom of God. I suppose that's true. Your letter would surely indicate that. I just want to leave you with a few passages from the Bible:

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only (only begotten) Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." 3:17 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." NIV

'Bye now. I hope you will ponder it all.

JR

posted 9/24/08 @ 10:55 PM CST

Poor child.

At least you won't be posting here anymore!
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